With robust designs and vintage classic style, discover the heritage of military timepieces today! Unofficially and by his own estimates, Hathcock believed he killed between 300 and 400. SIGHTS: Folding rear, bead front Previously sold. While visiting relatives in Mississippi, he took to shooting and hunting at an early age, partly out of necessity to help feed his poor family. The only downsides are that its in the foothills just on the east side of the Rockies and the Chinook winds can get up to 100mph on bad days! It has been determined that the increased accuracy of the Model 70 Winchester is insufficient to justify its introduction into an already overburdened supply system., Although adoption of the Model 70 as a sniping arm by the U.S. Marine Corps and U.S. Army remained elusive, the rifle did enjoy some measure of quasi-military popularity throughout the mid- to late-1950s. The metal finishes were done by Ken Pederson ofPederson Arms in Arlington, WA. Hathcocks primary set-up was a Model 70 (pre-64), 30-06 target rifle with a heavy barrel, and Unertle 8x scope. A native of Little Rock, Arkansas, Gunnery Sergeant Carlos N. Hathcock II joined the Corps in 1959 at age 17. Two months later the Marine Corps replied to Winchester in a memo which stated: Based on the Marine Corps response, the door appeared closed to the Model 70 ever seeing use by the US military during WWII. Enjoy the photos and let us know if there's a special model 70 project we can take on for you! The rifle chosen was the Winchester Model 70. From the 1970's, illustrating the Monte Carlo style stocks used in this era. They are a little tedious to adjust but have very clear glass and a very fine cross hair recticle. It is a Model 70 National Match version made before 1940. [2] Hathcock married Josephine "Jo" Bryan (ne Broughton; 19302016) on the date of the Marine Corps birthday, November 10, 1962. Calvin Lloyd, wrote a 72-page report titled Equipment for the American Sniper, which discussed the various types of rifles and telescopic sights available at the time. Lots of posts I haven't come back to as of late. His parents separated so he grew up with his grandmother in Geyer Springs, Pulaski County. Serial numbers were in the approximate 41,000 to 50,000 range, and the rifles had 24" sporter barrels with leaf sights, sporter-checkered stocks with steel buttplates, 1" sling swivels and leather slings.Shortly after the government acquired these rifles, Winchester reported that all .30 Government 06 Rifles are now frozen under War Production Board Limitation Orders. The company obviously wanted to sell as many of the Model 70s remaining in its inventory as possible. These later rifles were delivered to the US military already modified to be sniper rifles, including a heavy barrel and accurized stock. While the USMC used the Model 70 to greatest advantage during this period, a limited number were also employed by Army personnel for sniping, and Model 70s with silencers mounted on them were utilized for covert operations in Southeast Asia.James O. E. Norells article A Century Of USMC Sniper Rifles (August 2007, p. 44) related some interesting information by retired USMC Maj. Edward J.Jim Land, Jr., regarding the Model 70 rifles that were used by the Marines in Vietnam circa 1966: Land first scrounged 12 Model 70 sporting rifles that had been procured by Special Services for deer hunting at Camp Pendleton. I appreciate those pics, the rifle and the background. In 1966, the Marines determined that the M1C and M1D Garand sniper rifles lacked the accuracy required for operations in Vietnam and modified the available Model 70 target rifles and standard rifles to sniper configuration by fitting them with the 8x Unertl "USMC-SNIPER" telescopic sights mounted on the Springfield M1903A1 sniper rifles during WWII and the Korean Conflict. On May 20th, 1959, at 17 years of age, Carlos N. Hathcock II fulfilled his childhood dream by enlisting in the United States Marine Corps. I'm not. We at Winchester Repeating Arms wish to take this opportunity to salute all those who have answered our nations call to serve. Because the M25 is a big, heavy rifle, I wanted to keep scope size and weight to a minimum while still being able to maximize the .308 round. The M72 173 grain .30-06 was something that I could familiarize myself with as it is fairly similar to the M118LR. Hathcock dreamed of being a Marine throughout his childhood, and so on May 20, 1959, at the age of 17, he enlisted in the United States Marine Corps. Hathcock's record and the extraordinary details of the missions he undertook made him a legend in the U.S. Marine Corps. Remarkably, a few remain in service to this day. It is used by not only sportsmen, but military and police snipers as well. Very nice rifle. Additionally, the simplicity of the model 70 action permitted it to be completely field stripped in a matter of minutes, and the unmatched adjustability of the model 70 triggeralso contributed to the model 70's popularity. The Unertl Scope used during that time didnt have the glass clarification that we have become so accustomed to. [38] He is buried at Woodlawn Memorial Gardens in Norfolk, Virginia. If you get a chance, test it out for yourself. It was in this way the Winchester model 70 found its way into unauthorized sniper duty during the WWII, primarily in the Pacific Theater. The 1047 rifles, U.S., caliber .30, M1903, Snipers Equipment on hand at this Depot are believed to be superior to the subject rifle both in accuracy and durability .. It was this . And, yes, I am extremely fortunate to have the most wonderful private range at my disposal. Those rifles were in the Winchester Marksman stocks with their wide forends and deep grips. Through the PX system in Okinawa, Lands NCOs bought mounts, rings and scopes. After returning to active duty, Hathcock helped establish the Marine Corps Scout Sniper School at the Marine base in Quantico, Virginia. I was quickly brought back to reality when shooting this system. IIRC, Remington did this with some of their rifles at one time. Hathcock used for much of his time in Vietnam. Hathcock generally used a Winchester Model 70, chambered in .30-06 and with a standard 8-power Unertl scope. You are using an out of date browser. Land, Jr., who served in the . The Winchester Model 70is abolt-actionsporting/huntingrifle. His primary rifle was one of the Corps Winchester Model 70 target rifles, chambered in 30-06 and topped with an 8-power Unertl target scope in an externally adjustable mount. sniper kill. He used a M2 .50 Cal Browning machine gun mounting a telescopic sight at a range of 2,500 yd, taking down a single Vietcong guerrilla. You must log in or register to reply here. *A USMC sniper uses his Unertl scope to search for enemy snipers in the Central Highlands of South Vietnam, circa 1967. Great project. The U.S. Army fielded some World War II-vintage M1903A4 bolt-actions but relied primarily on the semi-automatic M1C Garand. The author says Carlos used a Model 70 Winchester with a long tube Unertl scope. Customer experience was, and still is, the primary focus, a key to the firms longevity and success. During trips to Mississippi, he started developing an interest in hunting and long-range shooting. His previous skill as a marksman had won him a variety of matches and trophies at places like Camp Perry in Ohio. [20] During a volunteer mission days before the end of his first deployment, he crawled over 1,500 yards of field to shoot a PAVN general.[who? He lived in a rural area with his grandmother as his parents had separated. Interestingly, Hathcock won that prestigious trophy with a Winchester Model 70. Bolt Action Sniper Rifle with Unertl Telescopic Sight Manufacturer: Winchester Model: 70 Type: Rifle Gauge: 30-06 Barrel: 24 inch round Finish: blue Grip: Stock: walnut checkered Item Views: 13427 Much as I described with the duplex, the mildot gives a lot of points to hold off of without ever having to change powers. This shot covered a distance of 2500 yards. Hathcock was awarded the Silver Star for his heroic action. Before deploying to South Vietnam, Hathcock had won shooting championships, including matches at Camp Perry and the Wimbledon Cup. There also isn't any internal adjustments to zero. On May 29, 1942, eager to do their part in the war effort, Winchester shipped 373 model 70 standard .30-06 rifles to the US Marine Corps. Composite stock of course. In 1967 Gunny Carlos Hathcock set the record for the longest. OVERALL LENGTH: 44.8 in. THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING VETERAN JOURNALISM - JOIN SOFREP+ , PO Box 1077 MURFREESBORO, Tennessee 37133 United States, P.O. [47] Hathcock carried a Colt M1911A1 pistol as a sidearm.[17]. Your rifle is seriously motivating me to start a new project build .metal and wood just feel so nice together. "White Feather" as he was called by the North Vietnamese . The stock is in very fine condition. This shot covered a distance of 2500 yards. My Navy Long Range Rifle (that I used at the Interservice Championship Long Range Match to win the 720 pictured above) started life as a Model 721 .300 H&H. It was built up by Crane in .300 Win Mag. In 1961, President John F. Kennedy drew a clear line in the sand in his inaugural address. [17] However, scholars such as Jerry Lembcke have cast doubt on Hathcock's account and questioned the existence of "Apache". In a book I'm reading about on Carlos Hathcock, there are some pictures of him with his rifle. George Van Orden and Chief Gy/Sgt. Head to the range this week with American Rifleman staff as they discuss a trim little repeater from Savage Arms that comes chambered for the .22 WMR cartridge. At the direction of Van Orden, USMC armorers began modifying some of thesporter weight rifles, fitting them with heavy Douglas target barrels and Unertl 8X scopes. First rate article outlining the service of the Model 70. The rifle most associated with Carlos Hathcock is the Winchester model 70 sniper rifle with an 8X-power Unertl scope. At that point Jim told Carlos to take her down. April 30 marks the 41st anniversary of the fall of Saigon (since renamed Ho Chi Minh City) and the end of American military involvement in that country. The action has some design similarities to Mauser designs and it is a development of the earlier Winchester Model 54. During his entire career as a sniper, Carlos Hathcock used a U. S. Marines version of a Unertl precision riflescope. A memo dated July 29, 1942, stated in part: Subject: Rifles, Winchester, Model 70, .30 Government 06. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. [45] On March 9, 2007, the rifle and pistol complex at Marine Corps Air Station Miramar was officially renamed the Carlos Hathcock Range Complex.[46]. The rifle had a likeness of Hathcock's signature and his "white feather logo" marked on the receiver. . This was standard issue on his Winchester Model 70 sniper rifle, and he even used the same scope on the .50 cal. But I guess I was wrong. One of the distant places where Americas commitment would come to be tested was in South Vietnam. Barrett products are used by civilians, sport shooters, law enforcement agencies, the United States military, and more than 75 State Department-approved countries around the world. Gen. Van Orden, including Smiths championship-winning rifle, were shipped to Vietnam as supplemental equipment.Peter Senich gave additional details regarding the use of the Model 70 sniper rifle in Vietnam in his excellent book The One-Round War: Glass-bedded and accurized by Marine Corps Rifle Team Equipment Armorers (RTE), the Model 70s fired .30-06 M72 match ammunition having a 173-grain, boat-tailed bullet. During the Vietnam War, Marine Corps Veteran Carlos Hathcock had 93 confirmed kills of North Vietnamese Army and Viet Cong personnel. This rifle has all of the characteristics of the Marine Model 70 sniper rifles issued in Vietnam c. 1966. [10] When Hathcock saw a glint (light reflecting off the enemy sniper's scope) in the bushes, he fired at it, shooting through the scope and killing the sniper. His parents separated so he grew up with his grandmother in Geyer Springs, Pulaski County. The USMC was still using the Model 70s as both target rifle for international match competition and pseudo-sniper rifle work . It might be possible it's real as it came from a Marine officer who served back then, but I don't know how you could ever prove/authenticate one unless you had a document with the serial number on it. From 100 -500 yards, things were fairly easy to compensate. 1942 dated receiver, with a 56 dated WRA barrel, mismatched bolt, all the metal looks like it's been refnished, and the stock has been beat to crap and then heavily sanded. "It was the hunt, not the killing. The Model 70's suitability as a sniping rifle during the Vietnam War should be unquestioned, as the most famous and revered sniper of the war, Carlos Hathcock, used the rifle with. To this end, Winchester sent a letter to the U.S. Marine Corps Quartermaster on July 20, 1942, indicating it had 1,944 Model 70 .30 Government 06 Rifles on hand, which we can offer you subject to prior sale., Most of these rifles had 24" barrels, but there were 105 with 20" barrels. Adopting the Winchester Model 70 as the ideal Marine sniper rifle was a concept that had been floated by the Corps tactical marksmanship experts as far back as the early 1940s. Carlos Hathcock typically used the Winchester Model 70 sniper rifle chambered for use with 30-06 ammunition along with an eight-power Unertl scope. The WWII U.S.M.C. The Korean War was the last conflict in which the World War II-vintage bolt-action M1903A1/Unertl sniper rifle was employed. [18][19], Hathcock only once removed the white feather from his bush hat while deployed in Vietnam. Oval Winchester "W/P" proof marks are stamped on the left side of the barrel and receiver. The serial number, "48213" is roll-stamped on the right side of the receiver below the rear sight base. The "U.S. Rifle, Caliber .30, Model of 1903," better-known as the M1903 Springfield, has become one of the most popular U.S. military small arms to collect. He did however adapt according to the conditions and once even used the M2 Browning machine gun! The sniper system shoots the M72 match ammunition loaded with 173-grain boat-tailed bullets (.30-06). However, where the USMC procurement brass failed to see the merits of the Model 70, the Marine Corpsmarksmendid not. Just under 1200 yards of room if I stretch it and hills in every direction for natures perfect back stop! Its almost like comparing your 1980s television to todays HD plasma flat screen, or VHS to Blue-ray. This year, H&R announced an expansion of its AR-15 lineup, bringing additional "retro" models to the market, including a 9 mm Luger-chambered Colt SMG clone, an M16A2-styled rifle and the carbine-size 723. FollowingWWII, popularity of the model 70 with Marine Corps snipers grew, eventually drawing the attention of other snipers from other branches of the military as well. Hathcock died on February 22, 1999, in Virginia Beach, Virginia, aged 56, from complications resulting from multiple sclerosis. Only thing I would add is I forgo the 6X as I dont think its precise. His previous skill as a marksman had won him a variety of matches and trophies at places like Camp Perry in Ohio. The ranging peice was plastic and many distort over the years. And they did see duty. Probably overthinking this but I like to use the "stops" at each end of the power range in this application. The subject rifles are not considered suitable for general service use for the following reasons: (a) Not sufficiently sturdy;(b) Parts are not interchangeable with M1903 and M1 parts; (c) Replacement parts will be difficult to procure; (d) Not fitted with sling swivels. NRA Secretary Edward J. For these reasons, we regularly get inquiries about building "tribute" and "replica"USMC Sniper rifles. Hathcock generally used the standard sniper rifle: the Winchester Model 70 .30-06 caliber rifle with the standard 8-power Unertl scope. A limited number of 3X to 9X variable power Marine Scopes of Japanese manufacture saw early use, but target mount, 8X Unertl telescopes, unchanged basically from those first adopted in 1941, were fitted to the Model 70s as were many of the original World War II Unertl contract scopes, which had survived official obsolescence and the post-Korean War surplus sell-off. Although the model 70 was never officially approved for combat service during WWII, a number of Model 70s made their way into combat with USMC snipers. In turn, the Winchester factory had submitted a sniper prototype of the Model 70 fitted with a 10-round detachable box magazine to the US Army back in the early 1950s. Before any official action was taken, the Marine Corps ordered 373 Model 70s chambered in .30-06 Sprg. Hathcock remains a legend in the U.S. Marine Corps. If I was you, I might look up this guy on ebay and write him and see if he has anymore of these barrels. [7][8][9] After a platoon of Vietnamese snipers was sent to hunt down "White Feather", many Marines in the same area donned white feathers to deceive the enemy. Gunny Hathcock's venerable Winchester could certainly tell a tale or two. the best known U.S. Marine Corps snipers who used the Winchester Model 70 during the Vietnam War was Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock, who used a Winchester Model 70 sniper rifle chambered in .30-06. While the Colt Model 601 was the first AR-15 to be mass-produced, there were several design variations that came before during the platform's development. The late Marine sniper set the record in 1967 with a M-2 .50 caliber Browning machine gun.. A one of a kind rifle! Just 55 days short of the 20 years that would have made him eligible for regular retirement pay, he received a permanent disability separation. On some occasions, however, he used a different weapon: . This one is mine. The Model 70, which was primarily based on the Model 54, is still regarded as one of the best cars ever made. As long as you understood the effects wind had on the projectile and understood the ballistic drop, you could do fine. Gunnery Sgt. By the end of his first deployment Hathcock's life was worth $30,000 to the North Vietnamese . You know it's funny how just a simple duplex reticle, like what you find in most scopes can be a real help in ranging and holding. When I first saw the pic I assumed it was a short action. This article, "The Military Model 70," appeared originally in the April 2011 issue of American Rifleman. Carlos Hathcock's sniper rifle! Clapp is, of course, an American Rifleman field editor today.To subscribe to the magazine,visit theNRA membership page here and selectAmerican Rifleman as your member magazine. Some of the stocks were fiberglass bedded. Scope used by Carlos Hathcock. His longest confirmed kill was 2500 yards. Born in 1942, Hathcock enlisted in the U.S. Marine Corps on May 20, 1959the very day he turned 17. A few Model 70 sniper rifles saw service in Korea, particularly during the Chosin Reservoir campaign-under difficult winter conditions that rendered other rifles -like the M-1A carbine -ineffective or inoperable. This is a pretty cool thread. The bolt body is polished bright and electro-penciled with the rifle serial number "48213". From an early age, he was fond of firearms. Using this rifle, we shot at increments of 100 yards, all the way out to 1,000 to test our modern-day sniper skills. *Lighting a path to truth* Former Navy JAG Worldwide U.S. Military Defense. You will find the sale page with further details if you click here. We should give February to Chris Kyle's favorite weapon, The Barrett M99 and Carlos Hathcock's Winchester Model 70 Sniper Rifle being as they both went on to the main rally point in February . Carlos Hathcock holds the Marine Corps record for the longest confirmed sniper kill shot. But I never did enjoy killing anybody. For this operation, Carlos selected a .30-06 Winchester Model 70 mounting a Lyman 8X telescope that McAbee had fine-tuned. I hope you don't mind but I was able to move my eyes beyond and it looks like you are fortunate to enjoy some beautiful shooting area if perhaps a bit cold. The legendary Carlos Norman Hatchock II learned to shoot with this gun. His heroic actions were instrumental in saving the lives of several Marines. It was the performance of these Snipers in Vietnam that secured the sniper concept as a permanent fixture in the United States military. There are currently no customer product questions on this lot. In November 1965, USMC Gy/Sgt. The rifle retains nearly 95% of the original blue finish with very minor handling wear. Estimated Price: $ 15,000 - $ 25,000 Price Realized: Details Outstanding, Rare and Well Documented Winchester Model 70 U.S.M.C. He managed to achieve an astounding kill record of 93 - including an impressive shot through an enemy sniper's scope, but it was with the M2 that he was able to take out a Vietcong soldier pushing a bicycle loaded with ammunition at . You are correct in that stainless cannot be blued as it is. Land told Hathcock to "put another round in her." Hathcock fired again and her body convulsed. Born in 1942, Hathcock enlisted in the Marine Corps on May 20, 1959--the very day he turned 17. In 1966, Hathcock started his deployment in the Vietnam War as a military policeman and later became a sniper after Captain Edward James Land pushed the Marines into raising snipers in every platoon.
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